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Is there more earth territories?
Yes, they go on forever.
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No, third earth is the last one.
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I don't know... Maybe?
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Maybe there is a fourth earth and fifth earth and so on. How could the earth territories just end like that? Does the planet explode or something after thrid earth? Or does third earth go on forever?

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Good point...maybe it doesn't exist yet...or not in halla, but outside...maybe thats where all the travellers are from, and the people who made the flumes...Oh I dunno.... Wink

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There is no fourth earth, all of the territories are just like it says, every place, every time they existed. I think just like gunny is from the past, the people of second earth that we live on are from the past too, and third earth is supposed to be current time, a time that continues and is present, not futuristic.

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It doesn't have fourth Earth. It has only THREE of them!

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[quote="theforsworn33"]There is no fourth earth, all of the territories are just like it says, every place, every time they existed. I think just like gunny is from the past, the people of second earth that we live on are from the past too, and third earth is supposed to be current time, a time that continues and is present, not futuristic.[/quote]

Good point. I never thought of it that way.

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maybe veelox is the after effects of third earth. The world crumbled and a new generation of people emerged and renamed earth veelox...*gasp* maybe every territory is some stage of earth, just at different millinia. Shocked makes you think

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[quote="Bigdude101"]maybe veelox is the after effects of third earth. The world crumbled and a new generation of people emerged and renamed earth veelox...*gasp* maybe every territory is some stage of earth, just at different millinia. Shocked makes you think[/quote]

I thought of that before and it kind of made sense. Like Eelong was the first one, then Zadaa, then Denduron, and Cloral, Earth 1,2,3 then Veelox, and then whenever the other territories are depends on how advanced they are. Why the Earth stages are simply 1, 2, 3 not some cool name I don't know.

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because Earth sux, lol

Yeah I thought of that too...but then why would we have no Cloral tech? Unless they got horribly wiped out including all records of their tech.

makes you think, don't it?

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[quote="XxWriterGurl06xX"][quote="Bigdude101"]maybe veelox is the after effects of third earth. The world crumbled and a new generation of people emerged and renamed earth veelox...*gasp* maybe every territory is some stage of earth, just at different millinia. Shocked makes you think[/quote]

I thought of that before and it kind of made sense. Like Eelong was the first one, then Zadaa, then Denduron, and Cloral, Earth 1,2,3 then Veelox, and then whenever the other territories are depends on how advanced they are. Why the Earth stages are simply 1, 2, 3 not some cool name I don't know.[/quote]

but if all the territories are connected in some way, if the hidenburg had not crashed, wouldn't it affect the other territories after the time of 1 earth? veelox would not exist then. but in the books, it said that if the hidenburg didn't crash, 1,2,3, earth would be a wreck, it said nothing about other territories.
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[quote="xxbluemist"][
but if all the territories are connected in some way, if the hidenburg had not crashed, wouldn't it affect the other territories after the time of 1 earth? veelox would not exist then. but in the books, it said that if the hidenburg didn't crash, 1,2,3, earth would be a wreck, it said nothing about other territories.[/quote]

Yeah that's true too. I just don't get why he would have other planets. Then wouldn't that mean thet the travelers are aliens or something?

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Nope. 10 territorys
1. Denduron
2. Faar
3. Third Earth
4. Veelox
5. Eelong
6. Zadaa
7. Quillan
8. Third Earth
9. Second Earth
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You queef patty. It's Cloral not Faar you butt reeming *$$.

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[quote="theforsworn33"]You queef patty. It's Cloral not Faar you butt reeming *$$.[/quote]

did you not notice that it said 3rd earth twice too?

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[quote="theforsworn33"]There is no fourth earth, all of the territories are just like it says, every place, every time they existed. I think just like gunny is from the past, the people of second earth that we live on are from the past too, and third earth is supposed to be current time, a time that continues and is present, not futuristic.[/quote]

Good point. Also, DJ says there's only 10 territories, so adding a 4th Earth, etc. Would mean that there's more than ten.

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Like I care. I'm not as queer as you guys...

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There's none, but there IS a dreadful circularity to it all (like First Earth will eventually become present Second Earth, and Second Earth will become present Third Earth, and so on and so forth) but at least that's what I think...

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There's none, but there IS a dreadful circularity to it all (like First Earth will eventually become present Second Earth, and Second Earth will become present Third Earth, and so on and so forth) but at least that's what I think...

^^^ Qoute from Clymnestra.
No there wouldn't be. Because people in first earth could never go to second earth. If Travelersused the flume then they would go straight back to the original time. Whether or not two million years had passed.it would always be the same. Sure first earth would become second earth but htey wouldn't realzie it.
Sorry if that was confusing

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[quote="jeditraveler"]Like I care. I'm not as queer as you guys...[/quote]

It's not so much "AS" queer as the meaning of the word. We may be really weird, but you are straight GAY....

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[quote="XxWriterGurl06xX"][quote="theforsworn33"]You queef patty. It's Cloral not Faar you butt reeming *$$.[/quote]

did you not notice that it said 3rd earth twice too?[/quote]

And no I didn't, but thanx for showing me so I can remember how much dumber that person is if that is even possible.

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The Three Earths are all we have. Period. The other Territories are not new generations of Earth. There called Veelox, Eelong, and Cloral, not VelEarth, EelEarth, and ClorEarth.

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[quote="theforsworn33"][quote="jeditraveler"]Like I care. I'm not as queer as you guys...[/quote]

It's not so much "AS" queer as the meaning of the word. We may be really weird, but you are straight GAY....[/quote]
XD that was retarted. You said I was straight and then gay haha. you idiot...

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[quote="XxWriterGurl06xX"]Maybe there is a fourth earth and fifth earth and so on. How could the earth territories just end like that? Does the planet explode or something after thrid earth? Or does third earth go on forever?[/quote]

Nope, I don't think so;

Like Patrick and Gunny told Bobby, they are only 3 earthline territories. From 3rd Earth, the history of the Earths keeps on going on and on...

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This is all i have to say.

1.denduron
2.coral
3.first earth
4.second earth
5.third earth
6.veelox
7.elong
8.zadda
9.quillian
10.ibara

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[quote="jeditraveler"]There's none, but there IS a dreadful circularity to it all (like First Earth will eventually become present Second Earth, and Second Earth will become present Third Earth, and so on and so forth) but at least that's what I think...

^^^ Qoute from Clymnestra.
No there wouldn't be. Because people in first earth could never go to second earth. If Travelersused the flume then they would go straight back to the original time. Whether or not two million years had passed.it would always be the same. Sure first earth would become second earth but htey wouldn't realzie it.
Sorry if that was confusing[/quote]

It WAS rather confusing, but I get your point, and your reply makes a lot of sense Rolling Eyes

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[quote="theforsworn33"]There is no fourth earth, all of the territories are just like it says, every place, every time they existed. I think just like gunny is from the past, the people of second earth that we live on are from the past too, and third earth is supposed to be current time, a time that continues and is present, not futuristic.[/quote]


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maybe theres a 4th earth, or vrsions of the territories, like second veelox or something, because ((maybe spoiler)) on the ten more aked questions about the books, or something like that,on the dj's pendragon news, theres a question that says, "are there only 10 books?'' and dj answers the following: "im sorry but i can't answer anyone of those questions..."

that made thing a lot, what do you thing?

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[quote="xxbluemist"][quote="XxWriterGurl06xX"][quote="Bigdude101"]maybe veelox is the after effects of third earth. The world crumbled and a new generation of people emerged and renamed earth veelox...*gasp* maybe every territory is some stage of earth, just at different millinia. Shocked makes you think[/quote]

I thought of that before and it kind of made sense. Like Eelong was the first one, then Zadaa, then Denduron, and Cloral, Earth 1,2,3 then Veelox, and then whenever the other territories are depends on how advanced they are. Why the Earth stages are simply 1, 2, 3 not some cool name I don't know.[/quote]

but if all the territories are connected in some way, if the hidenburg had not crashed, wouldn't it affect the other territories after the time of 1 earth? veelox would not exist then. but in the books, it said that if the hidenburg didn't crash, 1,2,3, earth would be a wreck, it said nothing about other territories.[/quote]

You have a point. I was thinking that maybe there are multiple Earthen Territories because Earth has multiple turning points. The rest of the Territories had only one turning point. I just think that people get confused with the whole First Earth affecting Second and Third Earth thing.

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I really have no idea whatsoever why there are 3 earth territories, but there are only ten territories, so there is no way there could be a fourth earth. But that would be very cool Very Happy

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ow... my head hurts... ok, bottom line, ask DJ if you guys are so freaked out about it. eh

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maybe dj said it was ten territories, but he didn't name say what they were.
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I think that 1, 2, 3 earths are like the time moves on sort of like people die and get born into that time and stuff, but it never goes past it's original time, like first Earth keeps on repeating 1937 with different things happening each time the year repeats, and so on with second and third Earth. Sorry if that was confusing .
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this is how i look at it...

the turning point of first earth affects the other earth territories becuz it is the past...if bobby would have won veelox then ibara would have been different...but it probably would still be there....there is no fourth territory...also like first earth becoming second earth....but before that happens second earth will be a lot closer to being third earth....you see?? but third earth goes for ever then...i think...at least...

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[quote="xxbluemist"]

but if all the territories are connected in some way, if the hidenburg had not crashed, wouldn't it affect the other territories after the time of 1 earth? veelox would not exist then. but in the books, it said that if the hidenburg didn't crash, 1,2,3, earth would be a wreck, it said nothing about other territories.[/quote]

But if one territory falls, it starts to break down the barriers between the territories. Here's the order I think they would go in:

Zaddaa-Most likely ancient Egypt to me
Denduron-Middle Ages
First Earth-Self Explanatory
Second Earth-Self Explanatory
Quillan-Due to our uncaring ways about the environment.
Third Earth-Fixed up the environment
Veelox-New Technology
Ibara-Future of Veelox
Cloral-Instead of building a new village on Ibara, they built new islands out of a light weight material, etc.
Eelong-Extinction of the Cro Magnons (i think is us) and the rising of a new species of human, Gar and a new dominant species, Klees.

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There isn't a fourth earth. It has been said many times in the series that there are only ten territories and they are in order of most primitive to most high-tech:

1. Denduron
2. Zadaa
3. First Earth
4. Ibara
5. Second Earth
6. Eelong
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how is ibara before veelox???

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[quote="you_know_these_books_rock"]how is ibara before veelox???[/quote]

Because Ibara took a step backwards in technology: one word names, no TV's, no lieflight, etc.
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maybe but i dont think it would go on after 4th earth

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It's impossible for there to be an other Earth Territory.
There is only ten territories.

1st Earth
Denduron
Cloral
2nd Earth
3rd Earth
Veelox
Eelong
Zadaa
Quillan
Ibara

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There are only ten territories.

Denduron, Cloral, Eelong, Veelox, First Earth, Second Earth, Third Earth, Ibara, Quillan and Zadaa.
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[quote="jeditraveler"]Nope. 10 territorys
1. Denduron
2. Faar
3. Third Earth
4. Veelox
5. Eelong
6. Zadaa
7. Quillan
8. Third Earth
9. Second Earth
10. Ibara[/quote]

You said third earth twice you idiot

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you guys keep posting the territories in the wrong order. It's
1. Second Earth
2. Denduron
3. Cloral
4. Zadaa
5. First Earth
6. Third Earth
7. Veelox
8. Eelong
9. Quillan
10. Ibara
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First Earth=Past
Second Earth=Present
Third Earth=Future

There is no fourth Earth, even if there were, what would it be, Past, Present, and Future are already covered.

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fourth earth would be the far future. ha
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