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2ndEarth



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would these ridculous gas prices be 2nd earth's turning point i mean i know it sounds dumb but i really think it would be.....what do you think, i mean think about it, it started out as not being a problem and look at it now....
Sat May 17, 2008 6:57 pm View user's profile Send private message
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i think we'd have more important things to worry about if this were real besides gas. like...i dont know....EXTREME DEATH!

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punnpunnpunn



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gas prices are not that high, especially not in america. some countries pay 10 dollers a gallon.
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Ghee-wiz



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Wait. Wait, wait, wait. Hold up. I've heard theories about the turning point being overpopulation, or world wars, or generally something that causes people HARM, but GAS PRICES?!

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seriously...what the herr, man?

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Seiyora



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[quote="Ghee-wiz"]Wait. Wait, wait, wait. Hold up. I've heard theories about the turning point being overpopulation, or world wars, or generally something that causes people HARM, but GAS PRICES?![/quote]
I was thinking World War II (or WWI, which caused the second one)... which, though a victory for the good guys, has defined global conflict till present. The Zionist movement (creating a Jewish state) was one of the biggest sources of tension between the Middle East and the West, and Muslim extremists wouldn't have attacked America otherwise, meaning no war and no crazy gas prices.
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[quote="Seiyora"][quote="Ghee-wiz"]Wait. Wait, wait, wait. Hold up. I've heard theories about the turning point being overpopulation, or world wars, or generally something that causes people HARM, but GAS PRICES?![/quote]
I was thinking World War II (or WWI, which caused the second one)... which, though a victory for the good guys, has defined global conflict till present. The Zionist movement (creating a Jewish state) was one of the biggest sources of tension between the Middle East and the West, and Muslim extremists wouldn't have attacked America otherwise, meaning no war and no crazy gas prices.[/quote]

Hmm. But, and no I'm not some crazy nutjob because this is strictly hypothetically speaking, aren't the gas prices a PRODUCT of the "turning point", more than the actual turning point itself?

I dunno. But (getting political here) I doubt it was because of the Zionist movement that they attacked us. I shouldn't really be talking about this - for one, I'm heavily biased on this matter, and secondly, I'm not even sure of what the point of this war IS. But I'd like to hear your opinion, anyhow.

Hope what I said makes sense...

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Edawg15



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I guess it could be seen as both the product of the turning point and the turning point itself. But, because the prices are rising, the earth could be thrown into a world-wide depression, and who knows what would happen from there.

It can be seen as the product because of all the previous things you guys have mentioned.

But, it can also be the turning point in itself because the rising prices COULD be stopped. I thought once the turning point took place, there was no coming back from it. There could be a coming back from these prices.

Just my thoughts.
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Seiyora



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Yeah, that's what I was getting at; sorry if I wasn't clear earlier. The current gas prices & state of affairs are a product of the wars and their aftermath, which were a global "turning point." There's a chapter in my history textbook devotd to how the World Wars have impacted the globe till the present. In short, there was a long list of Muslim complaints against the U.S., and the hundreds of thousands of displaced people as a result of Zionism was one of the earlier ones.

However, if all this decades-long chain of events were the turning point, it's taken a different route from the other territories' turning points, in that it's taken a long, long time to throw society into chaos (which it hasn't, yet! Razz), and like Edawg said, it could be reversible.

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i couldn't really even guess what the turning point is, but i doubt it will be as poltical as you guys are thinking, or else dj could come under a lot of controversy. Although I wish it could be controversial(i like controversial) i am gussing he will just make something up.
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Well, if you go to the Amazon site, it gives a brief explanation of the book Wink
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[quote="punnpunnpunn"]gas prices are not that high, especially not in america. some countries pay 10 dollers a gallon.[/quote]

Yeah, but that's because their cars are much more efficient, and last longer on smaller amounts of gas.

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[quote="enaunianguy~254"][quote="punnpunnpunn"]gas prices are not that high, especially not in america. some countries pay 10 dollers a gallon.[/quote]

Yeah, but that's because their cars are much more efficient, and last longer on smaller amounts of gas.[/quote]

It's ten dollars in places like Burma. I don't think they have top of the line cars there... Wink
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LOL, good point, Edwag.

Love your avvie, by the way, enuanianguy, for personal, geeky reasons (Twilight rocks my socks)

But I'm still going on what I said before.

If, hypothetically, gas prices had anything at all to do with the turning point, I think it would be the product of the impending turning point, and not it itself because, c'mon guys: will it really kill you to pay $4 for gas? And wouldn't it make such a crappy plot? "Bobby...Pendragon...your help is needed...ON YOUR OWN TERRITORY!" "Holy CRAP. What is it? What is it? Are Mark and Courtney all right? Is anyone dying? Oh, my God: what's happening?" "Oh, no, Bobby...something MUCH worse....GAS PRICES!!"

...Yeah, doesn't seem like a huge thriller to me, either.

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gas prices? I thought the turning point would be war or food shortage or a major storm or global warming...but GAS prices?!?!?! We can live with that! We can live with $10 a gallon, even $50 a gallon, but we just cant drive. More exersise!

And although it kills me to say it, I can live with the timer, though not for long.

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[quote="Ghee-wiz"]LOL, good point, Edwag.

Love your avvie, by the way, enuanianguy, for personal, geeky reasons (Twilight rocks my socks)

But I'm still going on what I said before.

If, hypothetically, gas prices had anything at all to do with the turning point, I think it would be the product of the impending turning point, and not it itself because, c'mon guys: will it really kill you to pay $4 for gas? And wouldn't it make such a crappy plot? "Bobby...Pendragon...your help is needed...ON YOUR OWN TERRITORY!" "Holy CRAP. What is it? What is it? Are Mark and Courtney all right? Is anyone dying? Oh, my God: what's happening?" "Oh, no, Bobby...something MUCH worse....GAS PRICES!!"

...Yeah, doesn't seem like a huge thriller to me, either.[/quote]

That's one of the funniest things I've read on this site Smile
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Gas prices causing the world to crumble? Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing I don't think Saint Dane really cares that much about fossil fuels(or any other fuel source for that matter). This is Pendragon, not Transformers. I mean come on, wouldn't you have just a little trouble believing something like the following:

(Nevva and Saint Dane discuss their plans to concquoer 2nd Earth)
"Nevva, begin preparing the Energon Cubes. We need more energy."
"Yes Saint Dane."

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high gas prices as the reason second earth shatters...

uh, no. don't think so.

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i think the turning point could be gas prices ww2 or anything maybye its running out of oil

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Maybe the turning point could be the breakup of Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston. Oh...it already happened. We're screwed.
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Quote: Maybe the turning point could be the breakup of Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston. Oh...it already happened. We're screwed. /Quote

Wait a sec, didn't they just get married this weekend? Or was that another couple? I don't really remeber. lol

This is a funny topic. (:

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